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Pimperkalle
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 12:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is a game and it is totally normal that smaller players have to pay "taxes" to stronger ones...
a player with a big fleet need some more planets as a non pro player to pay for his ships. and i just want to take 1 or 2 planets! i know that this is a bit unfair but this is kosmor. some time ago i was the one who had lost a lot of planets.

but now you show my wp fleet to all players! that was a big mistake... and now you have a problem!
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Daktaklakpak
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 12:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pimperkalle wrote:
this is a game and it is totally normal that smaller players have to pay "taxes" to stronger ones...
a player with a big fleet need some more planets as a non pro player to pay for his ships. and i just want to take 1 or 2 planets! i know that this is a bit unfair but this is kosmor. some time ago i was the one who had lost a lot of planets.

but now you show my wp fleet to all players! that was a big mistake... and now you have a problem!


Let me translate this for all:

"I am a BIG player and you are NOTHING! Keep quiet and let me and my companions steal your economy! The world is bad and we love it! If you say anything against me or show my data to the public the world will be much more BAD for you!"

Did I translate that correctly? Wink

Oh by the way .... do you mean this fleet/WP on coords 2231/1916 ? Twisted Evil

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Ships on
Warplanet of Pimperkalle
Probe(H1) P-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Probe(H1) P-2 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Probe(H1) P-3 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Probe(H1) P-4 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Probe(H1) P-5 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Probe(H1) P-6 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Probe(H1) P-7 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Orbital glider(H2) D4_L4_S4 of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Orbital glider(H2) Scout_001 of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Space fighter(H3) Blaat of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) 21 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) 22 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) AlreadyDead of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Andiva-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Arcane of Chrono, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Corona of Chrono, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Crave-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Determination of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Dragon-3 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Enterprise of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Exitor-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Extruder-2 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Faith of Chrono, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Interceptor-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Intrepid of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Kinetic-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Lalala of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Nightlaser-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Nova of Chrono, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Revolver-2 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Samurai-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Senior-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Simbio-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Simbio-2 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Speedstone-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Superia-1 of Doomsayer, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Vision of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Interceptor(H4) Voyager of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Frigate(H5) b1 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Frigate(H5) Eternity of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy frigate(H6) a1 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy frigate(H6) Divinity of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy frigate(H6) Hawk of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy frigate(H6) Phantom of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy frigate(H6) Styx of Deckard, House: DreiStigKeit
Cruiser(H7) Marauder of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy cruiser(H8 ) Hades of Deckard, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy cruiser(H8 ) heavy-01 of facerrider, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy cruiser(H8 ) Hyperion of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy cruiser(H8 ) Tiamat of Darkfyre, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy cruiser(H8 ) x1 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy cruiser(H8 ) x3 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy cruiser(H8 ) x4 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy cruiser(H8 ) x5 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Heavy cruiser(H8 ) x6 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Destroyer(H9) Burrich of Surst, House: DreiStigKeit
Destroyer(H9) Edel of Surst, House: DreiStigKeit
Destroyer(H9) y1 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Annhilator of Egon, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Bretagne of facerrider, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Chade of Surst, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Chivalric of Surst, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Defibrilator of Egon, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Devastator of Egon, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Elizabeth of Mango, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Exodus of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Fitz of Surst, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) FitzChivalric of Surst, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) helena of Deckard, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) hägar of Deckard, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Odie of facerrider, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Odin of facerrider, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) Queen of Mango, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z1 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z10 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z11 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z12 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z13 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z14 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z15 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z16 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z16 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z17 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z18 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z19 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z2 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z20 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z21 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z3 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z4 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z5 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z7 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z8 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Goliath(H10) z9 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Leviathan(H11) L1 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Leviathan(H11) L2 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Leviathan(H11) L3 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Leviathan(H11) L4 of Pimperkalle, House: DreiStigKeit
Leviathan(H11) Tsacko of Surst, House: DreiStigKeit


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 13:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

good luck Wink
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Ratman
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 14:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was very gutsy of you Daktaklakpak but you will conquered just as I was. Hope you the best.
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Daktaklakpak
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 14:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me there is no difference in being conquered or being independent Smile

Pimperkalle may get some credits when he conquers me but he gets a nasty house member too Twisted Evil The future will show us if conquering me will be a good deal for him ...
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Walker
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 15:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

strange thing as far as i know nearly nobody in this game pays taxes Wink
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Daktaklakpak
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 04:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today again one of my planets was conquered. But I don't stand still like a hare !!

Hey Pimperkalle: Don't let your lesser house members do the dirty work for you ! Are you afraid of conquering me ??

Do I have to post another of your fleets ? Twisted Evil
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Darkfyre
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 07:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm. All this commotion over such a little thing... Rolling Eyes

I agree Pimperkalle might have been more "honorable" or whatever you like to call it, if he had asked politely if you wanted to join, or at least contacted you about the attack.

But in the end, almost all big players will do the same. They conquer you. It's that simple.

It's like the little situation between me/Salami on one side, and Neireh/Tikonda on the other side. We were stronger, we took some planets - they are stronger now, and it's basically "join or die". The contact between me and Neireh has been reasonably friendly, but is either side being especially friendly or fair to the other? No, both sides have abused strength and opportunity to create a situation in their advantage. That's the way this game is played. In the end it's just one rule: the stronger player beats the weaker player. Strength can be found in many ways: a large fleet, a powerful friend, smart tactics... but in the end that's the only thing that really counts.

Don't get me wrong. I value loyalty, friendship, and respect a lot! But this game is not just about that. If there was only friendship all the time, this game would be boring. That's why I've been aiming for conflicts now and then. I'm first and foremost loyal to my house and leader, but when I see an opportunity for conquest I can be quite selfish sometimes. This game is about power. That is the only thing. However, friendship is power as well, and every enemy you make is a threat to your power. That is why small players can matter if they work together, and big players can't just do all they like if they piss off too many other players. There have been examples of that, and I am sure there will be examples like that later.

The situation with Pimperkalle / Daktaklakpak... I think Daktaklakpak should stop crying. He got beat by a stronger player. Big deal. It's not fun, but if you can't take your loss, this won't be a fun game. The thing you must learn is to take your losses, and just keep going. Eventually you will become stronger, wether through building up a fleet and lots of planets, or by joining a strong house which can protect you. This game is not for people who join and expect to win right away. You need patience, skill, and a bit of luck to become strong. Crying will not make you stronger. If Pimperkalle was a big bully who broke alliances and conquered everyone he saw, there would be a reason to call out and unite other players against him, but this... little incident is no reason to cause so much commotion, I believe. Posting the fleet... It's a bold move, but also a useless one. You know that in war spies are generally either held hostage or executed. I will not shed a tear if you are bled dry to your last planet. Not because I don't like you, but because you've brought it on yourself.
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Daktaklakpak
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 09:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I see everyone of DreiStigKeit wants me to keep quiet Wink

I won't do so and you can not keep me quiet because - as you said - this is a game! And nobody can "kill" me Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 09:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is you good right, but then you have to stop crying that we are soo evil, if you don't want to cooperate.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe i should comment to Darkfyres words that i grant a disadvantaged oppenent the chance of retreat before attacking them. And i must say that we are hardly a house of conquerors. I wrote Salami before to question him not to attack reacor planets or he has to live with the consquences. Not evryone would give an obviously agessive Emperor heading to your Planets the chance to think his plans over.So in this Case we are only defending us Wink But challenge us and we fight back with all we have. Don`t underestimate your neightbours when you think that they might could be an pretty prey. You would never know which connections they might have. Allys or other partners in the background which wherend official. You should know your enemy first, and then you schould know yourself and your abilitys then youmight have a chance *G* Wink
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Daktaklakpak
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 05:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

At last they did it !! HIP HIP HURRAY !!
The mighty Daktaklakpak was defeated!!
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Liam
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 06:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome in our house. And remember, we didn't defeat you, we conquered you. Think about the difference!
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Daktaklakpak
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 09:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok wise Admiral Surst I will think about your wise words! bow

In fact you neither defeated nor conquered me .... I jumped on one of your planets which was protected by some big ships. I couldn't wait to be part of your honest house ! Laughing
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Liam
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daktaklakpak wrote:
Ok wise Admiral Surst I will think about your wise words! bow
I hope so Laughing

Daktaklakpak wrote:
In fact you neither defeated nor conquered me .... I jumped on one of your planets which was protected by some big ships. I couldn't wait to be part of your honest house ! Laughing
It makes me happy, that you wanted so fast to us. Not many are so fast Razz
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