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Black-Skull
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 14:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Only 190 H1 are enough to kill a Leviathan? I don't believe that.


190 H1 are not enaugh if the H1 have only a normal moral and/or if the Leviathan have a high moral. Have the H1 a high moral and the Leviathan only a normal Moral - it are enaugh !

The mathematical demonstration :

If the Leviathan armed with L12 and have a normal moral, he have a Hitchance of 22 %. He need 2 Hits to destroy a H1, or 380 Hits for all H1.

A H1 hits the Leviathan with his L3 with a Hitchance of 94 %. The L3 make 11 damage and so the H1 needs 1901 Hits to destroy a leviathan with 24 S12.

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1. ) Leviathan-destroy-rate

H11 : 30 * 0.22 = 6 Hits ----> 3 destroy
H11 : 60 * 0.22 = 13 Hits ----> 6 destroy
H11 : 60 * 0.22 = 13 Hits ----> 7 destroy
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Loses H1 : 16 per Zyclus (Torpedo, Laser , Laser)

2.) Shoots for the H1 until the total Annihilation :
190 :---> 187 + 181
174 :---> 171 + 165
158 :---> 155 + 149
142 :---> 139 + 133
126 :---> 123 + 116
110 :---> 107 + 101
94 :---> 91 + 85
78 :---> 75 + 69
62 :---> 59 + 53
46 :---> 43 + 37
30 :---> 27 + 21
14 :---> 11 + 5

Sum :

2303 Shoots * 0.79 = 1819 hits - not enaugh !!!!!!!!!! She needs 1901 Hits .
2303 Shoots * 0.94 = 2163 hits - enaugh !!!!!!!!!!

Have the Leviathan a high moral, he make more damage.

H11 : 30 * 0.37 = 11 Hits ----> 5 destroy
H11 : 60 * 0.37 = 22 Hits ----> 11 destroy
H11 : 60 * 0.37 = 22 Hits ----> 11 destroy

and kill the H1 faster, so that the H1 make less damage.
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PaulAtreides
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 21:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

H1 do not carry any torps. H11 do.
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Black-Skull
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 07:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

And ? What are that for a great difference ? The Leviathan kills in the Torpedophase 3 H1. That are only a small bonus for the Leviathan. He kills in one Torpedophase an 2 Laserphases (incl of this bonus !) only 16 from 190 h1, but the (highmoral-) h1 make 3795 damage.

The h1 wins throught her great number.
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PaulAtreides
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and the high moral of all the hundreds of ships.
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Gozer
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 16:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting exercise, but I doubt we'll ever see a single H11 go up against 200 H1's.

Any volunteers to stage a battle between, say, 5 H11's and 1000 H1's? It could be a huge media event, broadcast galaxy-wide.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 17:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

And who is going to build 1000 H1? And how do you want to get high moral for all of them? Maybe one Shieldleviathan without any weapons is enough?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 18:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

michimike wrote:
And who is going to build 1000 H1? And how do you want to get high moral for all of them? Maybe one Shieldleviathan without any weapons is enough?
well... i had thought that 1 battle and all ships turned high moral...

YES, YES, i know that isnt what maeli said when moral was introduced - but its what happened to me, and its what lebia said
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 02:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Upkeep of 1000 H1: ..... 1.250.000
Upkeep of 5 H11: ............ 500.000

You can build H11:H1 2,5:1 --> 12 Levis and 1 Goliath for the same upkeep as 1000 H1.
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Black-Skull
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 07:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gozer wrote:
Interesting exercise, but I doubt we'll ever see a single H11 go up against 200 H1's.

Any volunteers to stage a battle between, say, 5 H11's and 1000 H1's? It could be a huge media event, broadcast galaxy-wide.


I believe - 1000 H1 could be a KILLER-FLEET, self against a fleet with 12 h11 and 1 H10 !

The might of the H11 (and the H10 too) are very strong depend from the shild- and hull strenght. The great ships shoot down so many H1 because the h1 needs so long to destroy the H11 shild and hull.

How highter the number of the H1 are, so faster they can destroy the big ships and prevent so shoot downs throught the destroyed H11.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

michimike wrote:
Upkeep of 1000 H1: ..... 1.250.000
Upkeep of 5 H11: ............ 500.000

You can build H11:H1 2,5:1 --> 12 Levis and 1 Goliath for the same upkeep as 1000 H1.


True, but a swarm of 1000 H1's is much cooler than 12 H11s & 1 H10. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 14:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

I volunteer 5 of my H11. If Michimike wants to construct 1000 H1, we can broadcast the battle to the galaxy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Black-Skull should build the H1 - I'm friend of Leviathan Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 21:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gozer wrote:


True, but a swarm of 1000 H1's is much cooler than 12 H11s & 1 H10. Cool



I agree, that would be a whole lot cooler to see.....lol
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