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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:14    Post subject: Galaxy Map Reply with quote

I have built a tool which can collect maps from players, remove all colours, warplanets and info, and make a list of the size, coordinates and names of all planets entered.

With this, it is possible to make a fairly accurate version of the galaxy in svg, or a minimap in png
I ran this project on kosmor.de, and got quite a reasonable map... so, i think it's about time for .com's turn


Watch this space... probably some time today, I'll make it ready for use

EDIT: for those who would like to see the result i got from the .de version after a while (for comparison with the .com galaxy)


note: both of these pics are from kosmor.de
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 19:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.rebelstudentalliance.co.uk/kosmor/map_neutral_com.html

Enter the source of an SVG file in the big box, then the name of a planet on the map in the top box, and the coordinates of that planet in the next 2 boxes.
Then press Run Map Tool
if you see a page with the names of lots of your planets on... it's probably worked.


Note: The planet name must be given in the form it appears, ie make sure there are no spaces/tabs, and it must begin with a capital letter.


The total number of planets currently known is displayed here:
click here
Currently 1155
edit: 3130
edit: 5700
edit: 8844
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 07:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm... it seems to be having a technical difficulty of the database wiping itself... i'll try to keep backups, i have one from early this morning, anyone who entered a map since... could they please try again?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can never figure out how to use any of these tools! not very good with program things.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 13:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

well... the problem of the disappearing database hasnt gone away... but i am making regular backups to minimize dataloss
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 02:48    Post subject: Reply with quote


kosmor.de (in future i will update this with >3000 more planets)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 13:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you create a page with all the planet names, as we upload them?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 14:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow so is this what the kosmor universe looks like. it looks realli damn cool
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 15:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Locutus wrote:
Can you create a page with all the planet names, as we upload them?
you mean just a list of all the planets?

i could... and i currently have it written, but i might leave it a few more days before i publish it

currently, there is quite a complete block in the south west, west and south, and south east... even northeast

but central, northern, eastern and northeastern maps are missing

i'll make a search tool, so people can search to see if a planet is there already

http://www.rebelstudentalliance.co.uk/cgi-bin/universe-com/search.pl
this is one of the most useful ends of the database Wink


the southern spiral arm appears to come off at 1950/1700 give or take a bit...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

and it is RELEASED!

those of you wanting the svg version of the map can goto http://www.rebelstudentalliance.co.uk/cgi-bin/universe-com/svg.pl for the SVG...

http://www.rebelstudentalliance.co.uk/cgi-bin/universe-com/mini_map.pl for 600x600 png (scale 1 in 20)
http://www.rebelstudentalliance.co.uk/cgi-bin/universe-com/mini_map.pl?x=0&y=0
and you can change the x and y in the url to move the pointer

now, using the search, there is a link to show this planet's location on the mini-map


for example:
http://www.rebelstudentalliance.co.uk/cgi-bin/universe-com/search.pl?name=Unix
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 15:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is an SVG sOURCE AND DO MOST HOME COMPUTERS HAVE ONE?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 15:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you ever use the button of the kosmor map page labelled "SVG" - then this is the same as this... it's just larger, and differently coloured... and a few ammendments
but the general design is the same


the source of an SVG is the text which makes it up, you can usually view this if you can view the svg... either save the svg to your computer, then open with notepad, or right click when viewing the svg, and press view source


SVG is a language which makes pictures, usually graphics, but they look more like html (svg is xml based, as is xhtml)
this means that it's really a set of instructions, telling a computer how to draw it, rather than actually a picture

if you open your kosmor map (png) and try and zoom in... it'll look ugly, and there is no more detail if you zoom in more
because svg is written in xml, it redraws it when you zoom in, so if you zoom in a thousand times on a diagonal line, there is no pixelisation

it is also useful (especially in kosmor), because it's much much easier for a computer to read svg than it is for it to read png or other raster image formats

if you want to know more... try looking at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 09:17    Post subject: Reply with quote



this is a slightly more complete version of the .de galaxy
and

is the .com galaxy so far to the same scale
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 13:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! How do you know this stuff? I think I did it right.... and learned something... let me know if it worked if you can...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 14:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's not your fault... but my db wiped itself when you tried yours... sometime soon i will give it a proper database backend... but for the moment i'm trying to add a load of extra planets from merthos's big map (see the universe thread in question and answers forum)

if you want to try again... please go ahead..
i'll be working on it for a while... so if it crashes again, i can fix it quickly from my backups Wink
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