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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:16    Post subject: Direct Trading Reply with quote

would the game be better if it allowed for direct trading?
The marketplace is a kind of trading, but a direct trading scheme
would help to make houses more unified.
Say instead of paying taxes to your super you sent them
a large amount of something they are short of and
you have an abundance of.
It would be a good wayto help new players to.
I happen to have 4 class-ms out of my 8 planets and
no decent way of producing optium, so i could trade my abundance of
titanium witn my super at a price that would be more beneficialto me than
the marketplace would and would help the house directly
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 14:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, that would mean that one alliance could just ruin the market. Plus that means that there would be no point in having individual resources if houses could just give resources to each other, within the house, why not have a house resoure instead?. Plus this would mean that people who need the money from the market place would lose out to itnra alliance trading! Bad idea, put well done for trying to improve the game. Commendable effort. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 17:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice idea, but again i say no...

if you want to trade... there must be some risk, and a chance for small players to have equal chance of doing buisness as bigger ones
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 04:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

i suppose... its just that all that really makes a house at the moment is
that you pay taxes and don't attack each other.
With direct trading it would be better to stay in a house , and so there
would be less small houses and more big houses were people aren't just
waiting until they can declare independence
With direct trading they would be more inclined to stay in a house
If only there was some way to do it without suffocating the marketplace...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 05:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are already some possibilitys in a house for trade..
simply send the demanded goods to planet and sell the planet for the price you want for the goods to your fellow housemember and he takes the goods from the planet and sells the planet for 0 credits back to you...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

very Complicated, what if his warplanet isn't near?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

no need for warplanet to do system trade... it just must be someone in the house, and remember that resources only travel at 150LJ/day... so it can take a while for the resources to be transferred
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

For neirehs idea to work , it is very complicated and you would both
need at least 1200 house members.
also i remember something in the help about what happens if planets keep
changing hands...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

one player needs at least 1100, the other 1000
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're wrong fern, alphabravo you're game is quite good but it is suspiciously like Kosmor
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 15:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummm... maybe because my game is kosmor?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 07:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Planet trading as a means of "internal trades" is a good idea and it works quite well. I have done this several times, espessially serving my superordinate as he is not a pro and I am.

The intergalactic marked is a great tool in Kosmor. Here you can exhange goods in a good way, following the simple laws of supply and demand.

However, the intergalactic marked is unstable. You are not asured to get the goods you need, as you may be outbidded or perhaps noone is selling "your" goods that day. This is when internal trades comes in handy. To do internal trades - all you need is to conqure one additional planet for you to use as a vessel of transportation.

When you have 11+ planets, you can contact your fellow housemembers asking for spesific components and negotiating a price. This way you might be guaranteed a delivery of the goods you need. You might even get the goods for less than the price on the marked. Wink

The contrarys will be the time used un negotiating and transfer of the goods (only 150Ly/day). On the intergalactic marced you will have the goods on your HP the very next day. So even if you might be guaranteed a cheap delivery using internal trades, you will find that time IS money in certain situations! Smile

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on behalf of the Charnooc Comitee of Finance and Trade,
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 01:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from all the reasons above a direct trading or an intra house market place would most likely be the end of the regular market. And that would make the game much more difficult especially for the smaller players.

fern wrote:
i suppose... its just that all that really makes a house at the
moment is that you pay taxes and don't attack each other.

Well, a house is much more. Usuall you have taxes of 0-3% for trusted members so the tax doen't really count. But you'll learn the benfits of a house sooner or later.

fern wrote:
With direct trading it would be better to stay in a house , and so there would be less small houses and more big houses were people aren't just waiting until they can declare independence

*lol* Face reality. The top 10 houses have more than 80% of the population of Kosmor. And yes, having more smaller/mid-size houses is major target of alot of the game enhancements discussed currently in .de.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a tangent, why is .de so much bigger
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kosmor.de started about a year before .com did.
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