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michimike
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, only the bad imperators build a lot of H3. They are too expensive for what they do. If you can calculate a little, you would soon know that you need about 10 H3 to one-hit a H4 and also about at least 4 to destroy a Probe in the Torbedo phase. So your 100 H3 may destroy 20 Probes, if they are lucky. And that's nothing (you said you have 200-600 H1, so you see how many H3 you would net, that they make sense).
My opinion on the H3: They should be build by the one who conquers the planets and who is in charge of the distribution of the booty-planets and they should not join ship-attacks. The owner should always be Pro-User to keep the buildings on the planet or at least to find something out about the owner Wink
...just to let you know some little tactics, but I'm sure you wouldn't adopt this system, so I can tell it to my enemies^^
I would be happy if you attack me with a lot of H3 Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is one of the funniest things iv read on this forum lol and ur right if u calculate it then they are more expensive than it would be for h4s.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 13:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, H11s are outclassed in terms of initiative.

But, H11s are also BROKEN. That is why their ranged has to be so limited or else how imbalanced they are will come to light. H11s are the only ship that spits on the ship HP and weapons progression formula.

Also, H11s are only countered by H10s (see Marion). This is true. But they are great at soaking up tons of interceptor and destroyer fire.

You should also build H10s, and many many probes, as mixed fleets of such are far more effective than a single stack of H11. But H11s are the fastest way to gain CP, and just about all the other ships are worthless too (destroyers may have some value depending on the opponent, and of course non-pros stick to H4s)

I say that the best way to kill small ships is to take a H11 and stuff it full of T10 and L10. Don't bother with H3. 30 H3 shoot 30 torps. 1 H11 also shoots 30 torps, and is much better than 30 H3 (you can put full shields and L12). Probes don't shoot in the torp round.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 13:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you want to kill small ships with your H11, you just need to put L9 and T9 at your H11, cause these are the smallest wappons that are able to destroy H4 hulls or shields with one shot
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 13:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

One-of-Many wrote:
But H11s are the fastest way to gain CP, and just about all the other ships are worthless too (destroyers may have some value depending on the opponent, and of course non-pros stick to H4s)

I wouldn't call it fast. It's definitely not fast, because it needs much much more factory capacity and much much more ressources to be built, so much more time. But of course it is the cheapest way to gain cp, if you look at the upkeep only.

And against the small ships I would never take Leviathans. With a mixed fleet, they should be killed by my H4-H9. The Levis then shoot directly on the opponent's Levis or Golis. I always equip them with tech-12 weapons Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think gondor and kesh have big fleets probly some of the biggest on the game
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont tell too much Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our fleet isn't that big. Just some Leviathans and the usual trivia, nothing you can't handle.. Winkewinke
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

So who has the most CP now for their own ships, I can name 7 or 8 with over 200k for themselves Wink.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 13:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many you can name with over 300K Question
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 14:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

3, soon to be 4 Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 16:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have over 300k + cp myself.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 16:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew you, and I know the other 2 guys, and maybe you can guess who the 4th will be Wink.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 19:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might be able to get there in a few weeks.
erm... oh, you say 300k, not 300.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 03:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a second large WP at my stock Razz but how much CP I own you never will find out.
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